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And there, my friend, is the very
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enjoyed only in the ABA.

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It's the 70s, a cultural time like none
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There is Julius Irving. Look at that
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Rick. Over here in the ABA, Iceman said
to Beth, we're here to entertain.

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Back in the day, playing this league
wasn't ready for us, man.

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Some bad boys in that league.

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We can make it show y 'all, man, what y
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Could this new basketball league cause
war with the established National

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Basketball Association?

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Well, Bill, the war is here.

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NBA was like old, big, skinny, white
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There was something fresh in the ABA.

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The ABA, you go back and look at all the
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Moses Malone, the Skywalker, Dr. Dunn,
the A -Train, the Iceman. The ABA was

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about doing things the NBA wasn't going
to do. The ABA brought the three -point

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shot to the game of basketball.

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They brought playing fast.

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And of course, the slam dunk contest
started in the ABA.

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Every guy walking into the stadium for
the game dressed differently, that

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absolutely came from the ABA.

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So you got to look good on the court and
you got to look good off the court.

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The ABA comes into existence at a really
intense period in American history.

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The ABA was the first integrated
workplace in America.

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Being vice president of basketball
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shoulder of a giant.

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Legend is thrown around a lot in sports.

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A legend is something that has an
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And the ABA may be the last significant
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Responsibility for those who come to the
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Tell the story.

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The American Basketball Association
played with a bright -colored ball that

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you want to salute.

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That's the way the game should be
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I felt that I wasn't being paid what I
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United States Supreme Court.

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If they don't merge, a lot of these
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There's no tomorrow.

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Professional basketball in the past 50
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How did we go from here?

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To here.

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A little -known secret.

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It all started with these guys.

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My name is George Iceman Girvin, and I
am an ABA guy.

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My name's Larry Brown, and I'm an ABA
guy.

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I'm Willie Wise.

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I'm Tom Hoover.

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I'm Bobby Jones.

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Hi, I'm Rick Barry. My name is Spencer
Haywood. Hi, I'm George Carl. I'm Martin

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Skilmore. I'm Matt Calvin. I'm James
Jones.

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I'm Dan Issel. Joe Hamilton.

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I'm Julius Irving, and I'm an ABA guy.

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When you look at it, the NBA was a
dying, boring, stale professional sport.

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Bob Pettit all over the place running
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The NBA at that time had the huge
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never really came out again.

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It was boring basketball.

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Mid -60s.

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The NBA was nowhere near as popular as
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And basketball was an afterthought.

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At that time, the NBA was the third
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public. And ABC was running like Wild
World of Sports and like race against, I

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don't know, like a horse or something.
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So it was ripe for competition.

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an all -or -nothing gamble.

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In 1967 came pro basketball's most
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American Basketball Association.

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The commissioner of the ABN, George
Mikan, the man who was acclaimed the

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greatest basketball player of this
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George Mikan was not only huge
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A whale of a forceful man and a
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So it made terrific sense to all of us
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expertise in the game itself to be the
spark plug to bring it all together.

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Everybody respected George Minton.

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I couldn't resist asking George one more
question, and that is, what do his old

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NBA friends have to say about his new
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Good luck, baby.

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We think we'll have a very fine
presentation.

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We're hiring coaches, general managers.
We have the sites.

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We have a schedule ready, and come
October, we'll be in business.

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It's new. It's revolutionary.

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And they call it the ABA.

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The New York Nets.

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The Los Angeles Stars.

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The Oakland Oaks.

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The Floridians.

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Houston Mavericks.

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The Kentucky Colonel.

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The Chaparral.

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The Denver Rockets.

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New Orleans Buccaneers.

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Piper.

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The Indiana Pacers.

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Right from the get -go, the ABA was
hoping to create just enough competition

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with the NBA so that the NBA would merge
with them.

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The owners, to a great extent, wanted to
create a league, and they wanted a

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model after the American Football
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game is on the air.

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The NFL had a monopoly. They were it.

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And then the upstart league showed up,
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which led to the merger.

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Seeing the success of the AFL was part
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ABA thought when they took the chance.

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It was a winning shot.

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ABA's owner said, I'll make buku bucks
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I'll reap the benefits of that.

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If you were an entrepreneur in 1967 with
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franchise, why not take a risk on the
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The cost of buying an NBA franchise in
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$1 million.

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The cost of buying an ABA franchise, $5
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And the fact the ABA buying was $5 ,000
would translate to $44 ,000 now.

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That's crazy.

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For the ABA to force the NBA into a
merger, they'd have to create a demand

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dying sport.

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To do this, They'd have to find a way to
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This obstacle is why other pro
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NBA in the past have failed.

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Sure, the ABA buy -in was only $5 ,000,
but you still had to lease the arena,

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market to the fans, and pay the players.

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What type of business person would go
all -in on the ABA?

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And now, your host for tonight's
hullabaloo, Pat Boone!

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Like today, I pass

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the time away, throwing five million
down the drain.

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I'm the only entertainer who was ever
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I had a friend, Ken Davidson.

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Ken said, you know, I have the
franchise, the right to the Oakland

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I'd like you to come aboard, and I'll
give you 10%, and you won't have any

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financial responsibility, but you serve
as president.

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So I said, okay, and I went to Oakland.

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The flower children and the drug -taking
and just breaking all rules and taboos

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and the ABA, they did the same thing.

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I liked it. I knew it was a little
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It didn't seem as traditional. That was
part of the point. It was something new.

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The total destruction of professional
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framework of what's going on, and I
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There was the older people who weren't
sure that that would fit the game. It's

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like older people always are. Why don't
you just keep doing the way we always

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have?

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Red Auerbach didn't like the ABA.

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He didn't like the competition.

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He liked to control things.

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Red was all about control, and he really
controlled the NBA.

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Red Auerbach was the face of the Boston
Celtics.

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He was the legacy and the history and
the identification of the NBA.

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NBA champions for the 11th time in 13
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Red really didn't like the ABA. He did
everything he could to shut it down,

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about that it was a minor league, bad
mouth it.

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We didn't pay much attention to it. We
thought it was a bunch of guys trying to

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become pests.

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This was all about the attitude of
superiority in the establishment versus

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upstart. Their little world was very
much disrupted by a presence of a

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competitor. Of course, they're angry.

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And obviously the number one thing is
the siphoning of talent.

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George, this new basketball league could
cause a money war between the two

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leagues. Do you see a money war coming
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Well, Bill, the war is here.

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We're going to...

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go aggressively at all the new talent,
the coming stars and everything else. So

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they're in for a battle. Believe me.

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The ABA came along. They looked at every
place that they could hurt the NBA.

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The ABA confronted the giant NBA.

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It truly was David and Goliath.

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And we put a wonderful stone.

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and our sling named Rick Barry. Rick
Barry of the San Francisco Warriors, new

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scoring champion.

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Last year, he was rookie of the year.
This year, he jumps to the very top.

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Rick Barry.

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Rick Barry is a cocky would be one word,
confident would be another word,

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arrogant would be another word, complex
human being.

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I'm ready.

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I was born ready.

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Oh, boy, look at this, ABA day.

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What was this here? Oh, my God.

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Wow, back with the old days of the
Oakland Oaks. The ABA was great in a lot

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ways. It was horrible in a lot of ways.
I mean, this can be perfectly honest. A

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lot of pictures that I've never seen
before. It's just kind of cool.

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Yeah, a little floater, that's a good
one.

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Come on, I mean, it's not often a player
comes into the league and does what I

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did, you know, two -time first -team All
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of the All -Star game.

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People say to me, Rick, you guys
couldn't play with these guys today. I

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you must be on drugs or something,
because do you understand how much

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would be if I was playing today?

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We had no strength coach. We had no
agility coach. We had no dietician. We

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nothing. Zero.

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It'd be crazy how much better a
basketball player I would be if I was

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today. That's the kind of bullshit that
I can't even stand hearing.

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What do we have over here?

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Interesting.

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Dual ABA ball.

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Barry returns to the lineup and thinks
of free throws.

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I had the record for a while of
consecutive free throws made in the game

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This is from somebody who knows how to
shoot free throws.

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80 % should be the benchmark.

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You have the luxury of missing one out
of every five shots that you take, and

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you could be an 80 % free throw shooter.
How in the world do you live with

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yourself if you can't do that? You
should be ashamed of yourself.

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A lot of people call me arrogant.

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Trust me, arrogant.

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It's not what it's about. It's about
confidence.

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And I was an extremely confident person.
I'm still confident to this day. That's

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the key, I think, to great success.

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Rick, if you would, tell me, why did you
leave the NBA for the NBA?

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Well, basketball has always been fun for
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I loved the game.

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Started playing when I was five years
old.

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And I get done having...

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Pretty darn good second year in the
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NBA commissioner Walter Kennedy gives
Barry the silverware of the MVP.

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But I didn't have a lot of fun playing
in the NBA.

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Bill Sharman was a terrific guy. I
really liked him as a person. As a

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wasn't fun to play for.

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The only way we're going to get it back
is to play it smart.

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He's the one that started the morning
shoot -arounds, which I think is the

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biggest waste of energy in the world.

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I think it's a total joke to use any
energy at 10 o 'clock in the morning

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you've got to play a game that night.

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He took the fun out of it for me.

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So now, all of a sudden, my then -father
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Bruce Hale, was going to be the new
coach with the Oakland Oaks of the new

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league, the ABA.

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I said, wow, that could be very
interesting. I can get to play for my

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-law, who I love as a coach, who helped
me become the player that I was in the

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pros. When he joined that team, they
approached me and said, would you be

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interested? And I said, yeah. I said,
I'll tell you what to do. Give me your

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best offer.

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And I got their offer. I went to the
Warriors, and I told them, I said, you

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to give me your best offer.

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And they low -balled me.

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Rick Barry announced he was coming over
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Well, that's when all hell broke loose.

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How is this contract illegal?

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In what way? I don't know. Enough for
the lawyers and the judge.

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What about the legal aspects? What did
Franklin Muley say to you when you met

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with him?

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Well, I'm sure that Franklin Muley is
going to have to take all the legal

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actions that he possibly can to try to
reverse this. The difference in the

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ability from Rick.

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to the next best player in the league.
None of these fellows that I've gone

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are even, none of them, even a starter.

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Any legal litigation, I just want to
concentrate on playing basketball.

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He doesn't go there strictly on the
basis of evaluating this league as

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to that league. He calls other things,
which include his family ties and Pat

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Boone, and it's for show business.

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It has nothing to do with movie
contracts whatsoever. I mean, this is

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that would really be foolish for me to
base my decision on.

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Yes.

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Would you be willing to play for the
Warriors if they get this injunction? I

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have nothing to say about that.

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You would play for them, though. I did
not say that. At the present time, I

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would not.

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Frank Muley, the pugnacious little owner
of the San Francisco Warriors.

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I say little because he was smaller than
me.

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There was a recess while the court
proceedings were going on, and I'm in

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hallway with Frank Muley, and he's
looking up, and he said, you know, I own

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these Warriors, and you took my best
player, and I'm determined to get a

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-dollar judgment against you.

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The California state judge did rule in
favor of the NBA's Warriors, granting

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only $1 million, but also binding Barry
contractually to the Warriors for an

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additional season.

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This decision in favor of the NBA has
been called into question by some.

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I not only have heard that the judge was
a Warrior fan, but I know he was.

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And of course, he wouldn't have let it
influence his decision. Who would think

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that? Barry would now have to decide
whether to return to the NBA or refuse

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play and sit out a year in his
basketball prime.

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George, you've signed some big -name
players from the established National

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Basketball Association, namely Rick
Barry. What's the status with Barry

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now? Well, Rick has to make his own
decision whether or not he wants to play

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us. He signed a contract whereby he can
play if he chooses to sit out this year.

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Are you still a warrior?

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No.

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I decided to play for Oakland.

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And I said, okay, great. I choose not to
play. And why?

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Because I would control the destiny of
my basketball career.

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In the summer of 1967, months away from
the tip -off of the ABA's inaugural

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season, the league would open its door
to its first crop of players.

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The ABA...

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It was an underdog league that gave
underdog individuals like myself an

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opportunity. The Los Angeles Lakers
offered me a tryout and a free signed

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autographed jersey by Jerry West and the
ABA. They offered me a $12 ,000

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contract and a $3 ,000 bonus.

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I never should have been given the
opportunity to play professional

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but the ABA gave me that.

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My first contact with the NBA was the
San Francisco Warriors GM at that time.

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sat down, he talked to me, and he
offered me a contract, which was at the

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minimum, $12 ,000.

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And I said, well, I'd kind of like to
listen to what they offer the other

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league.

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Oh, no, that's just a Bush league.

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Those guys, they can't play ball.

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There were a lot of guys who were trying
to make it, and they were trying to

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prove themselves. All of us who were
just invitees to camp, we had to really

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and play hard.

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Every single practice, every single
drill, so we could gain whatever edge

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we possibly could. Otherwise, that
opportunity was so fleeting, and it

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away.

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Do you want a job where you have to
carry a brown bag to work, or do you

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job where you can do what you like to do
and make a living?

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No video record exists of the ABA's
first game.

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This November contest from the first
month of the ABA's inaugural season is

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first known recording.

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Here we go, the start of the ABA game.

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In season one, the ABA is searched for.

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and found considerable talent.

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The AVA style of play was at the time a
revelation, fast, free,

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and all out.

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Guys were trying to prove themselves and
prove that they belonged and that they

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could play basketball.

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And a lot of guys didn't take kindly to
it. So, yeah, it could become violent.

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The ABA was a pretty physical league.
There was a fight almost every night.

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In the ABA, there was a lot of fighting
because it was okay then. You didn't get

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thrown out.

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And things got very physical. There were
a lot of fights.

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I mean, it was like a hockey game.
People don't go to hockey to watch

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They go to watch a fight break out.

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I remember one of the All -Star games.

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The coach and the owner of one of the
teams got into a fight. I mean, they're

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talking about a serious fight.

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You know, swinging at each other,
grabbing stuff, rolling on the ground,

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the jacket off him, ripped the sleeve
off his sport coat. I mean, it was

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Who said basketball wasn't a contact
sport?

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Hey,

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hey, hey, hey. Come on, Bobby. Let's go.

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That's all right.

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I didn't see it. I didn't see what
happened.

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You know, today, if you get off the
bench, you get fined. But back in the

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if a fight broke out and you didn't get
off the bench to help in the fight, you

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got a fine.

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It was crazy.

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You have to understand, this was the
last chance.

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I mean, if you didn't make it in the
ABA, then you were going home to work 9

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5 in some kind of job. And so a lot of
these guys literally fought to save

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jobs.

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The ABA knew that while a good rumble
may stir the crowd for a moment, in

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to make fans love their league long
term, they would have to innovate both

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game and the showmanship.

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of pro basketball.

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The ABA didn't just allow, they
encouraged a wide open style of play

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that was exciting and that emphasized
innovation.

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And the ABA had to try almost anything
just to stay afloat, just to try and

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attract some fans.

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A lot of things that would have been
unthinkable in the relatively staid NBA.

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What the hell?

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Give it a try in the ABA, which starts
with the ball itself.

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Another thing that really struck out was
the ball. That red, white, and blue

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ball started showing up in the
schoolyard.

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The red, white, and blue ball was
unique.

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They were in the entertainment business
before the NBA really understood what

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that was all about.

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The most important contribution to the
game itself is the three -pointer.

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A unique feature is to award three
points for field goals made from outside

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arc drawn 25 feet around the basket.

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Fred Lewis, home run.

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We have added the home run in basketball
where now any of the players that shoot

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from behind 25 feet gets the three
points instead of the two.

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It was a new thing. It was innovation.

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The ABA, for instance, you know, we
shoot the three -point play, which I

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is very exciting going down into the
last three minutes of the game.

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And if you're six down and you shoot a
couple of those things, you know, you're

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right back in the ballgame.

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It turned out that fans loved it.

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Three -point shot. He scores.

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This was a big, big plus for the ABA.

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Nobody is seated in the building.

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Without the three -point shot, there's
no Steph Curry.

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Curry gets a look, fires away, ties the
game for three. No Reggie Miller.

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There's no open style of play.

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Here's LeBron.

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LeBron for the tie.

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Without the ABA, you don't have that.

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The ABA had developed a staff, but they
needed a thought.

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Faced with Rick Barry's court -ordered
absence, The ABA decided to make a move

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that the NBA had refused to make.

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The ABA went after the Hawk.

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Watch the six -foot -eight Hawkins
stuff.

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Connie Hawkins came up playing on the
playground courts of New York City,

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basically a high school phenom.

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Met Hawkins in high school.

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He was tall, suave, and debonair.

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He was just a heck of a basketball
player at a very young age.

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In all -star games, he was almost a
certain MVP because he just had the

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the flash, and he could put the ball in
the hole.

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A lot of folks said that he was good
enough to be a pro when he was just in

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school.

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But his name came up in the
investigation of this game -fixing

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When he was a young man, there were
always men who hung around the

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courts offering to buy them lunch and
giving them things in order to entice

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to play in their tournaments or to play
on their team.

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And so he came across a guy, Molina.

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who was the real mastermind behind this
1961 game -fixing scandal.

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You know, they had tried to almost groom
him to be somebody who could

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potentially reach out to his network of
college players, but he never actually

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contributed in that way.

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But because of these encounters, his
name came up in the investigation.

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And they threw him in a room, no lawyer.

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no family, nothing, and said, you're
guilty and you need to admit it.

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And they kept him there for a couple
days and finally admitted that, yeah, he

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knew this guy.

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He just realized the only way out of
this was to tell them what they wanted

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hear, giving a false confession.

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And when word got out, that was it. So
his career never happened.

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The NBA, they had all the power in the
world, and the NBA did not bother to do

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any kind of investigation of their own
to figure out whether or not those

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accusations were true.

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It screwed them up, man. The league
bought them from coming in. It was all

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Connie Hawkins disappeared. An itinerant
basketball player just looking to play

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wherever he could, ending up with the
Globetrotters because he could and he

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paid. Here's the guy that's thinking,
I'm never going to have my shot.

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He can't play in the NBA.

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He's banned from earning a living at
what he's good at for, like, years.

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The ABA comes along, and it's his
salvation.

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Because Connie Hawkins was like a legend
that you really couldn't see.

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Hawk, of course, was the first.

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True superstar.

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You know, the first ABA superstar.

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Connie Hawkins, most valuable player,
leading scorer.

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6 '8 center of the Piper. This is
Hawkins in the all -star game.

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And this is how you guarantee two
points.

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This is Pittsburgh on the evening of May
4th, 1968.

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But it wasn't an ordinary spring evening
in Steel Town.

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where nearly 12 ,000 basketball fans had
paved their way into Pittsburgh's Civic

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Arena to watch the seventh and deciding
game of a basketball championship.

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Connie Hawkins, oh man, he was just, he
just took over.

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Hawkins again.

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The Pipers finally proved what they had
known all along, that they were indeed

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the best in the ABA.

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For Connie, I think, I don't know if it
could have been much sweeter than having

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that opportunity, seizing it, overcoming
adversity, and winning the title.

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The ABA offered him the chance to show
the NBA.

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that he was actually of professional
quality.

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His saving grace was the fact that two
lawyers, the Littmans, launched a $6

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million lawsuit against the NBA,
accusing them of participating in what

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called a group boycott, which
essentially means that they effectively

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to refuse to draft him.

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Connie Hawkins actually ends up coming
out on top in that lawsuit. The NBA

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up deciding to settle.

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Connie was 29 when he came to us. His
first year in the NBA after he was

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cleared, he made first team All -NBA
that first year. The leading scorer of

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Phoenix Sun playing in his first All
-Star game at 6 '8 from Iowa, Connie

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Hawkins. The ABA.

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had given Connie Hawkins a platform.

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His 1968 ABA championship birthed a Life
magazine article that shone a spotlight

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on the injustice of his being illegally
banned by the NBA.

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The NBA's absolute power was being
challenged by this new breed of player.

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I was in the NBA.

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You negotiated your own contract. You
didn't demand.

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You accepted.

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That was the climate at that time.

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And if you didn't have enough husper and
balls to go in and figure out

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that this was your value and this is
what you were worth, they would come to

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just like they came to me and said, this
is what we're going to give you. And I

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said, no.

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What do you mean no?

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Who do you think you are? You don't come
in here demanding things from us.

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That kind of.

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Now,

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you could go for it, and you would be
under that thumb wherever.

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Or you could say, hey, I want to play in
the league, but you're going to pay me,

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and I'm not going to be your boy.

462
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:21,180
How much of it was racially motivated?

463
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,560
All of it.

464
00:32:25,180 --> 00:32:27,920
Before the ABA was actually established,

465
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:35,620
Black players faced a racial quota in
the NBA, and it was kind of unspoken,

466
00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:42,380
informal, but very much a fact. So we'll
let a few ballplayers in, but we'll

467
00:32:42,380 --> 00:32:45,660
make sure that they're the right type of
black ballplayer.

468
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,900
With the coming of the ABA, it offered a
number of new teams, a new league,

469
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,260
whereby black players who weren't really
given a fair chance quite often in the

470
00:32:56,260 --> 00:32:58,300
NBA were allowed in the ABA.

471
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:04,600
When you look at it, the ABA was the
first integrated workplace in America.

472
00:33:05,860 --> 00:33:09,740
You know, you had the civil rights, the
bill in 64, and another one in 65.

473
00:33:10,940 --> 00:33:13,740
But you can't legislate people's hearts.

474
00:33:15,020 --> 00:33:20,050
Integration in the workplace, It was
another 10 to 15 years before you really

475
00:33:20,050 --> 00:33:21,050
saw that happening.

476
00:33:21,130 --> 00:33:23,890
I mean, I remember I graduated from
college in 79.

477
00:33:24,210 --> 00:33:28,070
I was interested in being a journalist.
It was that recent that you could meet

478
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:32,590
every black person at the New York
Times, or Sports Illustrated for that

479
00:33:32,650 --> 00:33:36,470
in 1979, because there were that few and
there were that still recent.

480
00:33:39,150 --> 00:33:45,070
The ABA comes into existence at a really
fascinating moment in American history.

481
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,100
We think about 1967 as this really
intense period.

482
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:52,300
We are divided against ourselves.

483
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:58,440
It's not clear what will be the true
measure of equality coming out of the

484
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,380
legislative victories of the civil
rights movement.

485
00:34:00,620 --> 00:34:04,580
But what is clear is that young people
aren't going to stand by and just accept

486
00:34:04,580 --> 00:34:05,580
the status quo.

487
00:34:09,420 --> 00:34:12,840
Sports become a larger metaphor for
these changes.

488
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,560
of activity.

489
00:34:25,060 --> 00:34:30,820
In the late 60s, you see the fight, you
see the strength, you see the

490
00:34:30,820 --> 00:34:35,560
resilience, you see that in the
ballplayers, that same inspiration that

491
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:41,179
going on in the city and the fire you
see in the players, you see it in the

492
00:34:41,179 --> 00:34:42,179
game.

493
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,100
Anytime there's struggle,

494
00:34:45,870 --> 00:34:47,230
It enriches the soul.

495
00:34:47,909 --> 00:34:53,969
And guys from the ABA, like, went
through those struggles, and that's why

496
00:34:53,969 --> 00:34:59,190
can come out with soul. Soul is like a
pure expression, a divine expression of

497
00:34:59,190 --> 00:35:01,730
who you are. They were forced to know
who they are.

498
00:35:02,290 --> 00:35:04,910
We were of another generation. We were
younger.

499
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:08,850
You know, Ali, you're not going to tell
me what to do.

500
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:10,190
No.

501
00:35:10,850 --> 00:35:12,030
No, it ain't going to work.

502
00:35:13,230 --> 00:35:18,690
In the late 1960s, the percentages of
African Americans in the ABA far

503
00:35:18,690 --> 00:35:23,030
that of Major League Baseball, which was
about 13%, and in the National Football

504
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:24,590
League, which was around 21%.

505
00:35:24,590 --> 00:35:33,070
It

506
00:35:33,070 --> 00:35:38,870
was hard in that period to sort of shed
all of the ideas about black laziness.

507
00:35:39,340 --> 00:35:45,180
African -Americans' inability to be team
players, their selfishness.

508
00:35:45,620 --> 00:35:47,300
That's what they thought in the NBA.

509
00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:51,160
They wouldn't have, they didn't want
black players on the team because they

510
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,620
thought they just played as an
individual to get, not as a team, but as

511
00:35:55,620 --> 00:35:59,500
individual player to get all the
prestige on them, not as a team.

512
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,940
While Bill Russell was thought to be the
exception.

513
00:36:04,670 --> 00:36:08,830
The prevailing thought and stigma around
black players was that you could not

514
00:36:08,830 --> 00:36:09,549
win with them.

515
00:36:09,550 --> 00:36:11,610
It was selfish and flashy.

516
00:36:12,290 --> 00:36:14,570
In some instances, non -coachable.

517
00:36:15,230 --> 00:36:21,910
However, in the ABA, this stigma would
be challenged by Warren Jabali.

518
00:36:23,230 --> 00:36:25,750
The baddest dude to come out of
Missouri.

519
00:36:26,130 --> 00:36:27,770
A man among boys. He was a badass.

520
00:36:28,030 --> 00:36:30,090
Physical. He was militant. Militant.

521
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:31,870
Militant. He had some anger in him.

522
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:33,870
You know, he really did.

523
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,100
Talk about your roommate.

524
00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:41,460
Ah, Jesus.

525
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,680
I was hoping you wouldn't bring that up.

526
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,880
I have never in my life, I used to cry.

527
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,240
I just hated white people.

528
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,560
What was Warren's feeling towards white
people?

529
00:36:54,980 --> 00:36:55,980
Didn't like them.

530
00:36:56,900 --> 00:37:02,400
And he didn't like whites. Well, that's
true, you know. He ain't like no white

531
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,780
people. Right away.

532
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,160
He let me know, you know, we're going to
be teammates. We're going to play on

533
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,160
the court together.

534
00:37:09,460 --> 00:37:13,900
But off the court, I don't want anything
to do with you. I can't remember

535
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:16,300
anybody ever being that direct.

536
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,280
Did he come in the league as Warren
Armstrong?

537
00:37:21,620 --> 00:37:25,460
Warren Armstrong played at Wichita
State.

538
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:30,780
Him and Kareem was supposed to have been
the two best players to come out in

539
00:37:30,780 --> 00:37:31,780
high school.

540
00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:37,220
He had the physical tools there. He just
could have his way on the court.

541
00:37:37,780 --> 00:37:39,880
He was built like a linebacker, right?

542
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,200
Physically, he could do whatever he
wanted with the other guards that could

543
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,138
handle him.

544
00:37:44,140 --> 00:37:46,900
Man, he'd be over there checking me and
going to grab my side.

545
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,620
I couldn't even move. I'm being strong.

546
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:56,120
And at 6 '2", he could jump like he was
6 '9". He was

547
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,140
an amazing player, an amazing
competitor.

548
00:38:01,069 --> 00:38:03,790
I don't know why he had this thing about
white folks.

549
00:38:04,170 --> 00:38:05,890
I don't know where he got it from.

550
00:38:06,090 --> 00:38:08,910
I know we went after some of the white
guys. I knew that.

551
00:38:10,110 --> 00:38:13,510
Shit. Jabali, I mean, that's just the
way he was.

552
00:38:18,770 --> 00:38:23,170
I wouldn't say he hated white people,
but he believed in his own people.

553
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,160
He would always talk to me after the
games about, you know, you got to be

554
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,160
black, man.

555
00:38:31,060 --> 00:38:37,360
Howard Wright was a rookie. And after
the game, we were in the locker room

556
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,360
getting dressed.

557
00:38:38,380 --> 00:38:44,700
And Howard had a pair of tighty
-whities, you know, jockey underwear on.

558
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:50,860
Warren reached over and grabbed the
underwear and ripped them off

559
00:38:50,860 --> 00:38:52,260
of Howard.

560
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:55,860
And Jabali ripped them off and said,
your family picked cotton. Don't you

561
00:38:55,860 --> 00:38:58,360
wear cotton underwear in this locker
room again.

562
00:39:02,860 --> 00:39:07,200
You have to understand the kind of
person that I was.

563
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,820
Why did Jabali come along?

564
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:17,700
Well, it's like I was saying, you know,
like after listening to Malcolm, you

565
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:20,380
start thinking about these things that
he was talking about.

566
00:39:20,830 --> 00:39:23,670
African -Americans should name
themselves,

567
00:39:24,450 --> 00:39:28,070
define themselves, speak for themselves.

568
00:39:28,810 --> 00:39:30,490
What does Jabali mean?

569
00:39:31,230 --> 00:39:36,470
Jabali, a large, conspicuous rock.

570
00:39:36,730 --> 00:39:39,550
That's right. That works?

571
00:39:39,970 --> 00:39:41,410
That works?

572
00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:43,010
Okay!

573
00:39:44,570 --> 00:39:51,140
It is in 1968, Oakland, where Warren
Jabali and Rick Barry, would be brought

574
00:39:51,140 --> 00:39:53,880
together as teammates on the Oakland
Oaks.

575
00:39:54,580 --> 00:39:59,260
The slender 6 '7 blonde bomber from the
Bay Area proved to everyone that he was

576
00:39:59,260 --> 00:40:01,740
everything there was to be in a
basketball uniform.

577
00:40:03,250 --> 00:40:07,310
Talented Warren Armstrong, the Oakland
strong boy, easily earned Rookie of the

578
00:40:07,310 --> 00:40:12,890
Year honors in the ABA. The 6 '7 Barry,
former scoring champion of the NBA, to

579
00:40:12,890 --> 00:40:16,430
give Coach Hannum's Oaks the potential
to go all the way.

580
00:40:16,810 --> 00:40:20,770
Armstrong's rebounds show his ability to
drive in close where the action is

581
00:40:20,770 --> 00:40:21,770
rough.

582
00:40:22,050 --> 00:40:29,010
35 games into the 1968 -69 season, with
Barry averaging a league -leading 34

583
00:40:29,010 --> 00:40:30,170
points per game.

584
00:40:30,730 --> 00:40:34,550
The dynamics of the Oakland Oaks team
was suddenly altered.

585
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:41,130
Rick Barry's big fear was that he would
be injured in the ABA by guys that were

586
00:40:41,130 --> 00:40:42,170
jealous of his contract.

587
00:40:43,810 --> 00:40:47,370
And he did get injured, and pretty
badly, and was out.

588
00:40:49,170 --> 00:40:52,630
Physically, I think that I got knocked
around a little bit more in the ABA than

589
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:53,630
I did in the NBA.

590
00:40:54,220 --> 00:40:57,320
because the ABA, of course, was
concentrating on my great deal. The

591
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,140
out to try and prove something by
stopping me. I did have a reputation,

592
00:41:01,140 --> 00:41:02,320
is the price that you have to pay.

593
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,260
It really hurts to have Rick Barry
sidelined for the rest of the season,

594
00:41:05,260 --> 00:41:09,040
it's the risk you take and the
increasingly rough sport of pro

595
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,940
I remember when Rick got hurt, he got
hurt the next game we had. We were

596
00:41:14,940 --> 00:41:17,140
in Indiana against the Pacers.

597
00:41:17,930 --> 00:41:20,590
And you could tell Alex thought we had
no chance.

598
00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:25,850
He didn't think we had a chance. We are
a young team, and I believe learning

599
00:41:25,850 --> 00:41:27,410
something every time we go on the floor.

600
00:41:28,410 --> 00:41:34,770
I definitely feel that we would have
been better with Rick, but there's

601
00:41:34,770 --> 00:41:35,870
little silver lining someplace.

602
00:41:37,370 --> 00:41:42,190
Our strong only 6 -2 from Wichita State
played both front and backcourt for the

603
00:41:42,190 --> 00:41:43,190
Oaks.

604
00:41:45,290 --> 00:41:47,170
After Rick Berry got hurt.

605
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,100
Warren Jabali. As a rookie, he really
carried the team.

606
00:41:57,140 --> 00:42:01,060
Oakland, California sees the deciding
series of the ABA playoffs.

607
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,220
It's the Oakland Oaks versus the Indiana
Pacers.

608
00:42:06,060 --> 00:42:12,680
When I had fun during the playoffs of
the first year when we were playing the

609
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,880
Indiana Pacers.

610
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,180
Because I was having 33.

611
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,660
Like, the playoffs is a different game,
man. The playoffs turned into, like,

612
00:42:21,660 --> 00:42:22,660
school ground.

613
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,740
Because, like, they just let you go. You
do your thing.

614
00:42:28,820 --> 00:42:34,420
In the fourth quarter, with seconds left
in the game, we were down three points.

615
00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:40,940
And Warren just got the ball and just
turned around and launched a Steph Curry

616
00:42:40,940 --> 00:42:43,120
three -point shot, and he swished it.

617
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:46,260
We won the game.

618
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,300
Then Warren just took over.

619
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,320
Larry Brown passing to Warren Armstrong.

620
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,060
A beautiful shot.

621
00:42:59,940 --> 00:43:06,020
One of the

622
00:43:06,020 --> 00:43:12,940
commonplace ideas was that you could not
win with black players as your

623
00:43:12,940 --> 00:43:14,660
main components of your team.

624
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:20,160
One of the players who first had the
opportunity to erase that stigma was

625
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:25,060
Jabali. And he broke the stigma because
he was just a great player.

626
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,900
Armstrong assists to Akins.

627
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:35,920
He really carried the team to the
championship.

628
00:43:36,660 --> 00:43:40,380
Warren Armstrong stops two of 39 points
for the game.

629
00:43:42,540 --> 00:43:44,440
His free throws make it final.

630
00:43:44,750 --> 00:43:49,590
Oaks 135, Pacers 131. The Oaks are the
new ABA champions.

631
00:43:58,950 --> 00:44:02,830
By season three, the ABA had the NBA's
attention.

632
00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:08,210
The NBA hadn't thought their competition
would survive this long, but the ABA

633
00:44:08,210 --> 00:44:11,930
proved willing to do whatever necessary
to stay in existence.

634
00:44:12,290 --> 00:44:18,700
And now... The ABA was set to challenge
the NBA for the most prized player to

635
00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:20,420
ever come out of the college ring.

636
00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:25,820
The article in Sports Illustrated made a
mistake when they pronounced it

637
00:44:25,820 --> 00:44:27,960
Alcindor. It's Alcindor.

638
00:44:29,060 --> 00:44:33,160
In Lou Alcindor of UCLA, we have a three
times the most valuable player of the

639
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,620
NCAA. He led the Bruins to three
national championships and the most

640
00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:38,620
player by the pros.

641
00:44:39,370 --> 00:44:44,110
Lew Alcindor at the time, now Kareem
Abdul -Jabbar, graduated from UCLA in

642
00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:49,670
He was by far the greatest prospect
coming into the league, at least in the

643
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:51,130
of Will Chamberlain, maybe ever.

644
00:44:51,930 --> 00:44:55,970
This is somebody who is known nationally
as a star.

645
00:44:56,930 --> 00:45:01,930
And now, of course, choosing between the
ABA and the NBA.

646
00:45:02,310 --> 00:45:08,530
So both leagues felt like they needed to
have him in their respective leagues.

647
00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:15,340
Lou Alcindor decided to come with us
since he is probably the most publicized

648
00:45:15,340 --> 00:45:18,480
basketball player in the history of the
sport and he's internationally known

649
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,840
that he would guarantee the success of
the league.

650
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,900
Our plan is to have him play somewhere
in the league. Wherever he desires to

651
00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:28,620
play, we'd like to make that available
to him.

652
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,740
He wanted to play in New York, so they
were going to say, fine, you can play in

653
00:45:31,740 --> 00:45:32,740
New York.

654
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,160
New York Nets had the ABA rights to
Kareem.

655
00:45:35,420 --> 00:45:38,380
Kareem, grown up in New York, was very
partial to New York.

656
00:45:38,910 --> 00:45:42,610
So that would have made the New York
offer almost certainly better than the

657
00:45:42,610 --> 00:45:44,270
offer, which was in Milwaukee.

658
00:45:44,590 --> 00:45:48,470
He was not particularly interested in
living full -time in Milwaukee.

659
00:45:49,450 --> 00:45:55,050
Now, Lew Alcindor, always a man of
integrity, even as a 20 -year -old, told

660
00:45:55,050 --> 00:45:58,490
ABA and the NBA, I will hear one offer.

661
00:45:59,170 --> 00:46:02,550
Make me your best offer, and then I will
decide.

662
00:46:02,910 --> 00:46:06,890
We set the ground rules. We told them
there would be one negotiation.

663
00:46:07,900 --> 00:46:14,620
and to do their best at that one
negotiation they got together as a

664
00:46:14,620 --> 00:46:20,240
all agreed we'll all put in a big pool
of money to get lou to sign with us and

665
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:24,720
the idea was that they would present him
with a check for one million dollars

666
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:29,480
and when they sat down with him that
would be kind of their big sales pitch

667
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:35,540
here's a million dollars today we do
have a certified check for one million

668
00:46:35,540 --> 00:46:36,540
dollars

669
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:42,440
It's in the Lou Alcindor collateral
account, a check for him, right there.

670
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,440
can pick it up.

671
00:46:44,860 --> 00:46:47,520
George Mikan, he's going to be doing the
negotiations.

672
00:46:48,220 --> 00:46:52,520
Mikan either brings the check and
doesn't give it to him or doesn't even

673
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:58,940
it and makes an offer to Alcindor that
was significantly less than what the ABA

674
00:46:58,940 --> 00:47:00,760
guys had agreed on doing.

675
00:47:01,290 --> 00:47:04,730
That was supposed to be the thing that
really iced this deal was this million

676
00:47:04,730 --> 00:47:05,729
-dollar check.

677
00:47:05,730 --> 00:47:08,530
Mikan said subsequently that Kareem was
aware of the check.

678
00:47:08,910 --> 00:47:12,810
That doesn't seem to hold true for me
from looking at things, given that

679
00:47:12,810 --> 00:47:16,610
in his memoir, basically said that he
would have preferred to have played for

680
00:47:16,610 --> 00:47:19,370
the New York Nets so he could stay in
New York. So that would seem to indicate

681
00:47:19,370 --> 00:47:21,410
that he was not given the check.

682
00:47:25,050 --> 00:47:28,650
Llewellyn sent a sign to play
professional basketball.

683
00:47:30,010 --> 00:47:32,530
with the Milwaukee Bucks of the National
Basketball Association.

684
00:47:37,130 --> 00:47:43,650
In our dealings with the ABA, they made
things very clear at the beginning and

685
00:47:43,650 --> 00:47:48,250
then proceeded to get more and more
unrealistic.

686
00:47:49,150 --> 00:47:52,990
Their offer did not compare with the
offer that I got from the Milwaukee

687
00:47:53,050 --> 00:47:54,050
It was as simple as that.

688
00:47:55,350 --> 00:47:59,490
The ABA guys lost their mind and started
screaming at Mikan.

689
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,080
What did you do? What happened?

690
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:06,060
And my understanding is he kind of said,
well, I just didn't believe that he

691
00:48:06,060 --> 00:48:07,060
would do that.

692
00:48:07,580 --> 00:48:14,560
Mikan was somebody who was a star in the
NBA back in the 50s and was sort

693
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:20,460
of operating on the mindset of what it
was like for players back in the 50s and

694
00:48:20,460 --> 00:48:27,160
the early 60s who had no leverage, who
didn't understand their worth.

695
00:48:27,799 --> 00:48:33,540
Didn't have the advisors to tell them
how much to ask for and what to ask for.

696
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:39,280
So, I mean, I think part of it was just
being out of step with this new pro

697
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,200
basketball terrain of competition.

698
00:48:41,780 --> 00:48:47,300
And probably some of it was like, well,
he should just be grateful for what

699
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:48,300
we're offering him.

700
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,480
And even though they tried to go back to
him and say, no, no, no, no, wait a

701
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,340
minute. We'll give you way more than
that.

702
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,820
He was done, and he's a man of his word,
and he said, no, I'm good. I made my

703
00:48:58,820 --> 00:49:00,720
call, and it was game over.

704
00:49:01,860 --> 00:49:06,160
Not coincidentally, George Mikan was not
commissioner much longer beyond that.

705
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,520
There was a great deal of anguish and
frustration at Mikan for not giving the

706
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,080
very best offer to the ABA and taking
Kareem's direction seriously. They

707
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,580
basically discarded his clear
instructions, and the result was the ABA

708
00:49:20,490 --> 00:49:24,830
That was probably the worst possible
move they could have made and really

709
00:49:24,830 --> 00:49:31,450
changed the history of the league. I
mean, getting someone of his

710
00:49:31,450 --> 00:49:35,530
stature, that would have been a huge,
huge plus for the ABA.

711
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:42,910
I think with Lew Alcindor, a .k .a.
Kareem Abdul -Jabbar, it could have

712
00:49:42,910 --> 00:49:48,410
accelerated the process of merging if it
had happened earlier.

713
00:49:49,210 --> 00:49:51,130
It would be basketball history.

714
00:49:54,090 --> 00:49:56,030
You know, long -term, big picture.

715
00:49:56,610 --> 00:49:58,530
He was the guy who could have changed
all that.

716
00:49:58,930 --> 00:50:05,710
By 1969, the ABA had tried everything in
their fight against the NBA, and

717
00:50:05,710 --> 00:50:06,710
nothing had worked.

718
00:50:06,990 --> 00:50:12,190
First, they tried stealing the star
player in Rick Barry, but the NBA got

719
00:50:12,190 --> 00:50:16,890
banned from playing for a year, which
discouraged other NBA players from

720
00:50:16,890 --> 00:50:17,890
the jump.

721
00:50:18,140 --> 00:50:22,920
Then they tried welcoming cast -offs
like Connie Hawkins, but in giving

722
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:28,540
platform to shine, they gave him the
necessary exposure to win his lawsuit

723
00:50:28,540 --> 00:50:29,580
jump to the NBA.

724
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:36,220
They had polled position on the race for
Lou Alcindor, but made a mistake that

725
00:50:36,220 --> 00:50:39,620
cost them Lou and cost Commissioner Mike
and his job.

726
00:50:40,460 --> 00:50:44,600
The defeats only made the renegade
league more reckless.

727
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,540
They decided to break the NBA's whole
damn system.

728
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,420
The ABA decided to draft underclassmen.

729
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,240
The rule in the NBA was class
graduation.

730
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:04,220
You couldn't even sign up for the NBA
until four years out of high school.

731
00:51:04,340 --> 00:51:06,920
You're ineligible to sign a contract.

732
00:51:07,530 --> 00:51:11,590
That was an NBA rule. That's all it was.
This was sort of like a gentleman's

733
00:51:11,590 --> 00:51:17,510
agreement between the NCAA and the team
owners and league officials of the NBA.

734
00:51:17,650 --> 00:51:21,930
And that sort of controlled the flow of
players into the league automatically.

735
00:51:22,330 --> 00:51:24,270
They had a monopoly on your life.

736
00:51:24,490 --> 00:51:29,710
So it was kind of those okey -doke rules
that, you know, could certainly be

737
00:51:29,710 --> 00:51:34,070
defied. We're in competition with the
NBA for talent.

738
00:51:35,130 --> 00:51:36,130
We are.

739
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,740
We're going to make a determined effort
to acquire the best talent for our

740
00:51:40,740 --> 00:51:47,620
league. The ABA did its most masterful
work in terms of disrupting the NBA's

741
00:51:47,620 --> 00:51:54,600
labor system by going into colleges and
getting underclassmen. They knew that

742
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,120
they were working against the system.

743
00:51:56,620 --> 00:52:00,400
And that's changed things too, hasn't
it, right? Now we're talking about one

744
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,800
done. That started with the ABA saying,
you know what, a guy has a right to make

745
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:05,800
a living.

746
00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:11,820
It allowed them access to a number of
NBA -worthy players.

747
00:52:12,100 --> 00:52:17,780
It gave the ABA a real shot in the arm
to take underclassmen. In the 60s, the

748
00:52:17,780 --> 00:52:22,560
widely held belief was that an
underclassman would not be physically

749
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,540
handle the demands of a pro basketball
season.

750
00:52:26,020 --> 00:52:32,140
The ABA had to make sure the first
underclassman they brought in was the

751
00:52:32,140 --> 00:52:33,140
guy.

752
00:52:35,850 --> 00:52:37,330
No one knew who I was.

753
00:52:37,630 --> 00:52:40,990
Everybody saw me play and said, oh, my
God, he's a phenom.

754
00:52:45,610 --> 00:52:51,290
You can divide basketball history in
terms of who can become a professional

755
00:52:51,290 --> 00:52:55,510
not become a professional in pre -Sensor
Haywood and post -Sensor Haywood.

756
00:52:56,730 --> 00:53:00,570
I was an accidental revolutionary.

757
00:53:01,950 --> 00:53:03,990
He goes to one year at University of
Detroit.

758
00:53:04,770 --> 00:53:11,530
and then decides he's done with college,
and he signs with the ABA. All hell

759
00:53:11,530 --> 00:53:12,530
broke loose in the NBA.

760
00:53:14,870 --> 00:53:18,230
The Senate Monopoly subcommittee
continued hearings on the professional

761
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:19,650
basketball leagues today.

762
00:53:19,950 --> 00:53:23,210
The story has to be told, and the truth
has to come out.

763
00:53:23,850 --> 00:53:26,790
I threw the league all the way to the
Supreme Court.

764
00:53:27,890 --> 00:53:31,310
I got tired of the press screwing me
over, and the team screwed me over, and

765
00:53:31,310 --> 00:53:33,170
said, okay, great, I can play the same
game.

766
00:53:33,890 --> 00:53:37,710
The NBA had to adapt or it was going to
die.

767
00:53:38,130 --> 00:53:39,890
I'm being asked to tone it down.

768
00:53:40,590 --> 00:53:41,950
What does tone it down mean?

769
00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:44,470
We're about to put on a show.

770
00:53:46,070 --> 00:53:47,150
Nobody knew it was coming.

771
00:53:48,270 --> 00:53:49,270
Absolutely nobody.

772
00:54:02,830 --> 00:54:07,010
And it will fly to you.

773
00:54:10,690 --> 00:54:14,930
This heart, it speaks

774
00:54:14,930 --> 00:54:21,370
sweet words

775
00:54:21,370 --> 00:54:23,490
to you.

776
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:37,540
and smile these

777
00:54:37,540 --> 00:54:40,360
hearts

